Special thanks to brashcandy at A Forum of Ice and Fire for her early
and generous interest (and her contributions to the argumention in the
Princes of Dorne). Special thanks to Lord Riusma at La Garde de Nuit for
much attentive reading, several corrections and insightful comments (for
instance why Ramsay, as Lord of Winterfell, could properly warn the
Ironborn of Deepwood Motte and of Torrhen's Square not to linger in his
lands: the Tallharts and Glovers are not proper lords, but depend
directly on Winterfell), and for directing my attention to the high
standards of the wiki
in the French Language.
I am grateful to many others who have offered comments, and even
sometimes compliments. Some forum contributions have inspired my
analysis (for instance this one
or even this very sloppy one
or have a familiarity with my own thinking (this one
The notion that much has been going on Winterfell behind the scene has
been proposed here
For more on the topic, one might consult Yeade's Grand
which gathers coherently many arguments
developed from there (I shall point out that, for all my thinking on the
topic, I am not inclined to believe either that Barbrey Dustin is
conspiring with Manderly, or that Lord Wyman intends to give Jon Snow
the crown of the North).
Here are a few more enjoyable resources.
From Pawn to Player is
an examination of the saga from the
viewpoint and through the special sensibility of Sansa Stark, with
numerous original essays on related characters and themes. It starts here
and is near its end point here
The mythological, legendary and sometimes historical foundations of
GRRM's universe are discussed and examined from all angles in an ongoing
debate, also known as the Heresy threads
and largely monitored
by Black Crow at A Forum of Ice and Fire.
For further information in the audiovisual form, one can watch and
listen to the enjoyable History
Here is a (not so long) list of modifications to the site, documented
here for the convenience of early readers. Upon reread, all I see are
spelling mistakes, faulty grammar, misplaced punctuation, incoherent use
of tenses that I have given up on correcting.
I have been asked for a summary: A
The Black Bat
added (irrelevant to the Winterfell chapters).
The Princes of
added (irrelevant to the Winterfell chapters).
The Unhooded Man
and the Butcher
added. It is a rather unsatisfactory attempt to
reconcile a few disparate conclusions: The hooded man is linked to
Crowfood and Mance. He brought news to Winterfell to seed discord
between Roose's allies. His appearance led to the murder of Little
Walder by Ramsay. He might be Robett Glover.
A list of minor additions.
- The Bride:
"Arya" curiously lacks any cloth in her bedroom before the escape.
- The Host
and the Groom: Roose Bolton is not (yet) lord of the north,
but Warden of the north. Further discussion of the men left at the
Ruby Ford. Ramsay's warning to the Freys at Moat Cailin.
Goodmother's Kin: Comment on the arrival of the Freys in the
north and the ironmen flayed at Moat Cailin.
overseeing Widow: Change of attitude of Barbrey the night
before the escape. Further confirmation of the reality of Barbrey's
grudge towards the Starks. More on the fiery eye of the Ryswell
banner. Comments on the Ryswell quarrel. Is Rodrik Ryswell in
- The North in
Disarray: Comments on the Tallhart status. A Bolton letter has
been sent to Torrhen's Square.
- The archaic
Bannermen: Funny analogy between the Norrey/Flint and the
- The Postmen:
Soldier and the Torturers:
Purveyor: Comments on the Manderly-Umber connection along the
White Knife. No more comparison between the gods of the Iron Islands
and those of the Sisters. Manderly eating ham when asked about the
fate of the three Freys.
quarrelling Castellans: Comments on Crowfood's interrogation
of Arya and connection to Osha. Further comments on the
Manderly-Umber, and Manderly-Karstark connections. Comments on
Whoresbane and the expelled freerider. Analysis of Hother's early
choice of joining Ramsay instead of going to Barrowton.
- The Pander:
Mance and the imposture of "Arya".
- The Animal
Powers: Horses are not in use by skinchangers. Comparison of
the Crakehall Freys with pigs.
- Off Stage:
More on Dagmer Cleftjaw's reaction to the Bolton letter sent to
- Seven Days
of Battle: The "Umber does not fight Umber" axiom probably
means that Whoresbane would stay inside Winterfell rather than go
out and fight Crowfood. Possibility of a Dagmer Cleftjaw
intervention. Manderly forces are probably waiting to ambush the
Boltons at some crossing of the White Knife. Discussion of possible
traitors among the mountain clans.
Discussion of the personification of Winter, especially the Maid
of Winter motif. Discussion of the attitude of northmen towards
the snowstorm and the old gods.
Epilogue: Discussion of the authorship of the letter sent to
of apparent Errors: Manderly's musicians never manifest
themselves. Crossbowmen shooting in the blizzard, when the
visibility is reduced to ten feet. The Ryswell family contradiction.
Excess of horses in the Great Hall.
- A True Queen:
The burning tree on House Marbrand's sigil is not necessarily a
- The Black Bat:
It seems that Harren the Black did not have any daughter.
Time, Matter: Discussion of the moment of Winter in the north
and comparison of the chronology with the events in the south.
Pander: The interaction between Val and Mance in Castle Black.
Did Mance and Val communicate before Mance left? Did Mance go
directly to the Last Hearth when he searched for the grey girl on a
dying horse? Is the last soft sad song sung by Mance the Last
of the Giants? A long discussion on the status of Val in
Stannis' eyes, which in turn sheds light on Della, as Mance's queen.
Unhooded Man and the Butcher: More on the news of the
- The Horn of
Winter: Three sections have been added : 1) Two dreams of Jon
Snow's could hold a clue concerning the location of the Horn of
Joramun. 2) A proposed explanation of the sentence And Joramun
blew the Horn of Winter and woke the giants from the earth,
under the light of the song The Last of the Giants. 3) A
little study of glyphs and runes throughout the story.One can note
that it is possible that the horn is blown without destroying the
Wall (indeed, Joramun blew his Horn, and the Wall has never been
Discussion of the time of the arrival of Winter in the north,
which could coincide with Val's arrival and a certain sound heard
Epilogue: Simplification of the argumentation. (No more
comparison between Mance and Marillion, both singers, prisoners in
an empty castle, and subject to torture. No more comparison with
the horn of Euron.). Discussion of many small points. A further
argument: Mance could conceivably know the moment of Val's return
to the Wall.
- A True
Queen: Discussion of Ser Axell Florent's views on Val, which
could be understood in various ways.
- The Black
Bat: Is the black bat of the Lothstones an allusion to the